Author Topic: What are GE EU players bragging about?  (Read 1894 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MeowMeow

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 18
What are GE EU players bragging about?
« on: August 15, 2017, 04:37:53 am »
I have a forum account in EU GE but I don't play in that server because well I still like this server. You will constantly see posts and comments about EU players comparing servers and of course bragging EU as the best server. They are very vocal about it and GM's don't take down their posts.

Why do they think they have a better server?

1. After sGE players migrated to their server, the dead EU server became alive. sGE people spent thousands of $ that even made them stronger than the old players.
2. New events. Look like they have new events every week and they usually copy pretty good events in kGE.
3. Balance game, because they don't have Onyx/COral and the other new rumins.

Prefix (EU player said on his post):
sGE was shut down for failing.
T3 is dying and terrible.
jGE is nice but bans anyone not speaking Japanese.

2strong (old player here says):
This makes me sad, EU GE staff (putting +8 imperv on lyndon box). Don't do the same things why t3fun server is a ghost town now.


What do you think t3 needs to do to make this server great again?


Offline Novusod

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 08:54:21 am »
Far from dying we going through a huge Renaissance right now. T3 currently has the highest population I have seen in years. This server hasn't been this busy since 2013. Part of this I think has to do with the 10 vis event that has been going on for the last four months as everyone is spamming raids all day long. Personally I think EU GE is the crap server. It is way more expensive over there with 16 million vis growth stones and high priced gears.

We never had +8 impervium on our server so I don't understand the complaints of NA being Pay to win. We have Eukelade and Arche rumins, so what. Eukelade is a lot easier to get then trying to gamble your way with +8 imperviums. You can spend $1000 on imperiums and still not get the gear to plus up. The only people who complain about T3 are really old and bitter players.

The "content locusts" I like to call them sit at the top of the game with nothing to do except complain about slow patches. It is their own fault if they rush through new content like locusts. Nothing can satisfy these people and they have been complaining for years going back to K2 and G1 days. I remember years ago there was a big exodus from North America to sGE because the were a few patches ahead of us. How is that working out for you dummies? Slow and steady wins the race. I tend to believe T3 / NA server will be the last man standing still around even after EU GE shuts down.

T3 doesn't need to change a thing to the game itself because we are already doing great. Don't fix what ain't broke.
* Maybe the only suggestion I could give is have seasonal events line up better. We have Christmas in January, School look in the summer, and then summer events in the fall when everyone is back in school.
* keep the summer events around longer than last year
0

Offline Dr.Bananas

  • New Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 09:24:12 am »
Actually updating faster.

I don't care that we don't update as fast as EU GE but being this far behind is ridiculous. We should at least be a month or 2 behind them. My main interest and the reason why i still keep up with the GE is future npcs/areas and scenarios.

No amount of events is gonna change anything. It's incredibly boring being this far behind.


Offline BlackRockShooter

  • Reboldoeux Pioneer
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • BRS ブラック★ロックシューター Burakku Rokku Shūtā
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 07:59:09 pm »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.
0
★BRS ブラック★ロックシューター (Burakku Rokku Shūtā) ★Family ★ Level★ ★76+3★ ★Anime ★ Manga ★ Music ★ Gaming ★ Vocaloid★

★BRS Project Mugen★

Offline CodenameL

  • New Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 06:18:18 pm »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.

Keep smoking meth and crack.
No one care about CW and tax is not killing the server.

Offline BlackRockShooter

  • Reboldoeux Pioneer
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • BRS ブラック★ロックシューター Burakku Rokku Shūtā
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 08:24:07 pm »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.

Keep smoking meth and crack.
No one care about CW and tax is not killing the server.

First off I'm not smoking anything.  Two you don't know how these smaller clans are losing players due to inactive members who refuse to log in because of CW and colony tax.  Three the server is dying and everyone knows this.
0
★BRS ブラック★ロックシューター (Burakku Rokku Shūtā) ★Family ★ Level★ ★76+3★ ★Anime ★ Manga ★ Music ★ Gaming ★ Vocaloid★

★BRS Project Mugen★

Offline Novusod

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2017, 07:14:57 am »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.

1. The collony tax is largely phychological as selling trash drops to NPCs is not how you make money in this game. If that is your strategy then you are playing the game wrong. Sell raid drops, chips, and upgraded gear to other players is the proper way to make money.

2. Somebody has to pay to keep the servers running and pay the devs to code the next patch. That stuff costs money and T3fun is not a charity.

3. Updates, who cares. What difference does it make what patch we're on. You realize we get the same amount of updates as every other server including kGE and jGE only we are 6 months behind as has always been the case for the last 5 years.

4. I own one of those +9 FoCs. I figured it came from blowing up some +8s but it is fairly obsolete now anyway since +9 Santo exists and there has never been +8 Impervium High Master on this server.

5. Lost 90% of the original players and again who cares since they have been replaced. Sever is just as active now as it was in 2013. New players aren't a bunch of bitter old farts like the ones who left. The server is in the best shape it has ever been with the best events we've ever had and some people still find reason to complain.

6. People have been saying the game would close in a year for the last 11 years. Don't hold your breath because it is not happening any time soon.
0

Offline BlackRockShooter

  • Reboldoeux Pioneer
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • BRS ブラック★ロックシューター Burakku Rokku Shūtā
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2017, 09:39:01 am »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.

1. The collony tax is largely phychological as selling trash drops to NPCs is not how you make money in this game. If that is your strategy then you are playing the game wrong. Sell raid drops, chips, and upgraded gear to other players is the proper way to make money.

2. Somebody has to pay to keep the servers running and pay the devs to code the next patch. That stuff costs money and T3fun is not a charity.

3. Updates, who cares. What difference does it make what patch we're on. You realize we get the same amount of updates as every other server including kGE and jGE only we are 6 months behind as has always been the case for the last 5 years.

4. I own one of those +9 FoCs. I figured it came from blowing up some +8s but it is fairly obsolete now anyway since +9 Santo exists and there has never been +8 Impervium High Master on this server.

5. Lost 90% of the original players and again who cares since they have been replaced. Sever is just as active now as it was in 2013. New players aren't a bunch of bitter old farts like the ones who left. The server is in the best shape it has ever been with the best events we've ever had and some people still find reason to complain.

6. People have been saying the game would close in a year for the last 11 years. Don't hold your breath because it is not happening any time soon.

1.  You're still wrong think about the new players who don't have the gears to do top tier raids and missions

2.  Publishers and Game Servers want players to gamble on Pay to Win Events.  So they make a profit or two.  That I can agree on.

3.  Being last isn't good it's like buying a PS4 game with DLC and they promise to release the DLC's and the publisher or I.P doesn't do it anything about it till a year later.  You think gamers will accept that kind of dishonestly and waiting for DLC's?  I think not you have to keep the game updated or people won't buy or play their games.

4.  You bought that FoC from Jeb he's the only one who had a +9 FoC.  I yet to see anyone else +9ing Greek Croma's so far besides Jeb.  Also there's a few +9 Strats Armors in this server and I already seen like 3 so far.  So yeah there are +8 Imperivums in the past.  Unless you're hacking the game and not using Imperivums to +9 armors that's impossible.

5.  They left because they got tired of the lies and the game died out back in 2013-2015.  Those players were smart and left for good.  I don't blame them for leaving and GEEU is having the same fate.

6.  Like I said MMORPG's don't last long.  I've seen MMORPG's close it's doors after 6 months to 10 years.
0
★BRS ブラック★ロックシューター (Burakku Rokku Shūtā) ★Family ★ Level★ ★76+3★ ★Anime ★ Manga ★ Music ★ Gaming ★ Vocaloid★

★BRS Project Mugen★

Offline CodenameL

  • New Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2017, 10:07:50 am »
The problem is six major issues with this server.

One:  Colony Tax at 20% is killing the server.  Nobody wants to lose Vis by NPCing stuff and buying pots and etc.

Two:  Server is a pay to win (GEEU) as well since they got those sGEers who are cash cows.

Three:  Updates?  Are you serious T3FUN always ends up dead last.   Sooner or later Thailand GE and Taiwan GE will beat us in updates before we do.

Four:  There was +8 Imperviums before some of these players don't know the history about the past cash shop events.  That's why there's a few players who manage to +9 FoC's and Strats armors.  However they won't link them to the entire server.  Trust me someone is hording those +8 Imperivums and they won't sell them in the market and I'm sure that T3FUN will do it sooner or later.

Five:  T3FUN already lost 90% of it's old player base.  There's no way they will ever come back.  If they went to GEEU they will end up leaving there too since the server is becoming just like sGE and T3FUN.  They care about $$$ and less about it's community.

Six:  Every game doesn't last long.  Sooner or later Granado Espada will end up closing it's doors.  Might as well enjoy it while it's still here.  Since this server is already showing it's true colors.  I don't believe that this server will last more than one to three years at the most.

1. The collony tax is largely phychological as selling trash drops to NPCs is not how you make money in this game. If that is your strategy then you are playing the game wrong. Sell raid drops, chips, and upgraded gear to other players is the proper way to make money.

2. Somebody has to pay to keep the servers running and pay the devs to code the next patch. That stuff costs money and T3fun is not a charity.

3. Updates, who cares. What difference does it make what patch we're on. You realize we get the same amount of updates as every other server including kGE and jGE only we are 6 months behind as has always been the case for the last 5 years.

4. I own one of those +9 FoCs. I figured it came from blowing up some +8s but it is fairly obsolete now anyway since +9 Santo exists and there has never been +8 Impervium High Master on this server.

5. Lost 90% of the original players and again who cares since they have been replaced. Sever is just as active now as it was in 2013. New players aren't a bunch of bitter old farts like the ones who left. The server is in the best shape it has ever been with the best events we've ever had and some people still find reason to complain.

6. People have been saying the game would close in a year for the last 11 years. Don't hold your breath because it is not happening any time soon.

1.  You're still wrong think about the new players who don't have the gears to do top tier raids and missions

2.  Publishers and Game Servers want players to gamble on Pay to Win Events.  So they make a profit or two.  That I can agree on.

3.  Being last isn't good it's like buying a PS4 game with DLC and they promise to release the DLC's and the publisher or I.P doesn't do it anything about it till a year later.  You think gamers will accept that kind of dishonestly and waiting for DLC's?  I think not you have to keep the game updated or people won't buy or play their games.

4.  You bought that FoC from Jeb he's the only one who had a +9 FoC.  I yet to see anyone else +9ing Greek Croma's so far besides Jeb.  Also there's a few +9 Strats Armors in this server and I already seen like 3 so far.  So yeah there are +8 Imperivums in the past.  Unless you're hacking the game and not using Imperivums to +9 armors that's impossible.

5.  They left because they got tired of the lies and the game died out back in 2013-2015.  Those players were smart and left for good.  I don't blame them for leaving and GEEU is having the same fate.

6.  Like I said MMORPG's don't last long.  I've seen MMORPG's close it's doors after 6 months to 10 years.

There are no +8 Imper they just have some heavy luck and balls that's all.

Offline Novusod

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2017, 11:12:09 am »
1.  You're still wrong think about the new players who don't have the gears to do top tier raids and missions

2.  Publishers and Game Servers want players to gamble on Pay to Win Events.  So they make a profit or two.  That I can agree on.

3.  Being last isn't good it's like buying a PS4 game with DLC and they promise to release the DLC's and the publisher or I.P doesn't do it anything about it till a year later.  You think gamers will accept that kind of dishonestly and waiting for DLC's?  I think not you have to keep the game updated or people won't buy or play their games.

4.  You bought that FoC from Jeb he's the only one who had a +9 FoC.  I yet to see anyone else +9ing Greek Croma's so far besides Jeb.  Also there's a few +9 Strats Armors in this server and I already seen like 3 so far.  So yeah there are +8 Imperivums in the past.  Unless you're hacking the game and not using Imperivums to +9 armors that's impossible.

5.  They left because they got tired of the lies and the game died out back in 2013-2015.  Those players were smart and left for good.  I don't blame them for leaving and GEEU is having the same fate.

6.  Like I said MMORPG's don't last long.  I've seen MMORPG's close it's doors after 6 months to 10 years.

1. No you are wrong. I said "raids" not top tier raids. New players can make plenty of money off of entry level raids like BHH and Coimbra Bridge. With the the 10 vis event running it is possible to make 40-50 million vis per day doing this. Occasionally people get lucky and get really nice drops from BHH such as Will of Argus. Both these missions are being spammed all day long. Anybody can join these raids and when players get a little more advanced they run CT, Divino, and Garrim.

2. That is capitalism for you.

3. Every Korean game does this because it has to be translated into English. Their primary market is Korea. They get it first and we have to wait for the translation. This isn't the PS4 catering to the American market. Waiting for game patches is just like waiting for anime to be redubbed into English.

4. Yeah I got the +9 FoC from Jeb. Though it is obsolete now because I know the player that has +9 Santo which was not created from any impervium.

5. You didn't address the point which is that the old players who quit have already been replaced by new players many of whom are spending money which leads into the final point.

6. As long as people are spending money on the game it won't be shut down.
0

Offline BlackRockShooter

  • Reboldoeux Pioneer
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • BRS ブラック★ロックシューター Burakku Rokku Shūtā
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2017, 12:25:24 pm »
1.  You're still wrong think about the new players who don't have the gears to do top tier raids and missions

2.  Publishers and Game Servers want players to gamble on Pay to Win Events.  So they make a profit or two.  That I can agree on.

3.  Being last isn't good it's like buying a PS4 game with DLC and they promise to release the DLC's and the publisher or I.P doesn't do it anything about it till a year later.  You think gamers will accept that kind of dishonestly and waiting for DLC's?  I think not you have to keep the game updated or people won't buy or play their games.

4.  You bought that FoC from Jeb he's the only one who had a +9 FoC.  I yet to see anyone else +9ing Greek Croma's so far besides Jeb.  Also there's a few +9 Strats Armors in this server and I already seen like 3 so far.  So yeah there are +8 Imperivums in the past.  Unless you're hacking the game and not using Imperivums to +9 armors that's impossible.

5.  They left because they got tired of the lies and the game died out back in 2013-2015.  Those players were smart and left for good.  I don't blame them for leaving and GEEU is having the same fate.

6.  Like I said MMORPG's don't last long.  I've seen MMORPG's close it's doors after 6 months to 10 years.

1. No you are wrong. I said "raids" not top tier raids. New players can make plenty of money off of entry level raids like BHH and Coimbra Bridge. With the the 10 vis event running it is possible to make 40-50 million vis per day doing this. Occasionally people get lucky and get really nice drops from BHH such as Will of Argus. Both these missions are being spammed all day long. Anybody can join these raids and when players get a little more advanced they run CT, Divino, and Garrim.

2. That is capitalism for you.

3. Every Korean game does this because it has to be translated into English. Their primary market is Korea. They get it first and we have to wait for the translation. This isn't the PS4 catering to the American market. Waiting for game patches is just like waiting for anime to be redubbed into English.

4. Yeah I got the +9 FoC from Jeb. Though it is obsolete now because I know the player that has +9 Santo which was not created from any impervium.

5. You didn't address the point which is that the old players who quit have already been replaced by new players many of whom are spending money which leads into the final point.

6. As long as people are spending money on the game it won't be shut down.

1.  Even those new players are doing BHH's and Normal BH's it doesn't matter if they don't have the gears to make it in this game.  You don't realize that every time you NPC field drops and roulette items to Item Dealer NPC.  You're losing 20% of your Vis and giving it to those factions who will not lower it.  You try to tell that to the players who just AFK in field maps and trying to make Vis that way.  Like I said before nobody wants to lose Vis to this insane taxation and those who support it have no respect for the community.  It's just greed and nothing more.

2.  Capitalism or not if you don't respect the community then the players won't support or play the games they make.

3.  Of course translation from Korean to English or even Japanese to English isn't easy.  I think IMC is just using Google translator just to make quick work on their part.  Also PS4 isn't for just North Americans it's also doing well in Japan and Europe.  Then again you're not a console gamer compared to me and a few others.

4.  Figures since he doesn't broad it anymore.  Also I know who knows that +9 Santo Leather Armor.  He must of had good luck on it.  However breaking armors just to +9 isn't worth it.  After all that craft materials plus upgrading + chipping and using EET's or DR 34 ET's + Socketing + Rumins.  It's not wise to do it and if it breaks you're breaking all that hard work.  Now if T3FUN does release +8 Imperviums like back in 2014.  Then maybe it would be useful but the GEEU players already said it would unbalance the PVP system.  So I would say no to +8 or higher Imperivums.  +7 to +8 armors are fine for normal PVEers.  However Greek Croma's and Elite Le Noir's are still useful.  I still use ELN's and GC's and I got a few Strat armors which I don't have the accessories for atm.

5.  They left because of T3FUN and IMC's greed.  When players leave in large groups and never come back.  That's a sign of disrespect on T3Fun's part.  They refuse to update the game and make the game balanced.  Even if you bring in new players they will also leave this game.  All it takes is one big mistake and people will leave.  GEEU players got mad when they gave away free Nena's new stance books to the sGEers and the GEEUers who were not from sGE/IAH were upset by that.  Also I heard that GEEU fired the original GM's and hired the ex-IAH GM's.

6.  Look how sGE ended up.  Players kept topping up and the game still shut down.  You can't just make players to top up and keep on playing.  Sooner or later the community will get wise from it and quit or move to a different server.  That's how most MMORPG's fail over time.
0
★BRS ブラック★ロックシューター (Burakku Rokku Shūtā) ★Family ★ Level★ ★76+3★ ★Anime ★ Manga ★ Music ★ Gaming ★ Vocaloid★

★BRS Project Mugen★

Offline Novusod

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 49
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 01:59:33 pm »
1.  Even those new players are doing BHH's and Normal BH's it doesn't matter if they don't have the gears to make it in this game.  You don't realize that every time you NPC field drops and roulette items to Item Dealer NPC.  You're losing 20% of your Vis and giving it to those factions who will not lower it.  You try to tell that to the players who just AFK in field maps and trying to make Vis that way.  Like I said before nobody wants to lose Vis to this insane taxation and those who support it have no respect for the community.  It's just greed and nothing more.

2.  Capitalism or not if you don't respect the community then the players won't support or play the games they make.

3.  Of course translation from Korean to English or even Japanese to English isn't easy.  I think IMC is just using Google translator just to make quick work on their part.  Also PS4 isn't for just North Americans it's also doing well in Japan and Europe.  Then again you're not a console gamer compared to me and a few others.

4.  Figures since he doesn't broad it anymore.  Also I know who knows that +9 Santo Leather Armor.  He must of had good luck on it.  However breaking armors just to +9 isn't worth it.  After all that craft materials plus upgrading + chipping and using EET's or DR 34 ET's + Socketing + Rumins.  It's not wise to do it and if it breaks you're breaking all that hard work.  Now if T3FUN does release +8 Imperviums like back in 2014.  Then maybe it would be useful but the GEEU players already said it would unbalance the PVP system.  So I would say no to +8 or higher Imperivums.  +7 to +8 armors are fine for normal PVEers.  However Greek Croma's and Elite Le Noir's are still useful.  I still use ELN's and GC's and I got a few Strat armors which I don't have the accessories for atm.

5.  They left because of T3FUN and IMC's greed.  When players leave in large groups and never come back.  That's a sign of disrespect on T3Fun's part.  They refuse to update the game and make the game balanced.  Even if you bring in new players they will also leave this game.  All it takes is one big mistake and people will leave.  GEEU players got mad when they gave away free Nena's new stance books to the sGEers and the GEEUers who were not from sGE/IAH were upset by that.  Also I heard that GEEU fired the original GM's and hired the ex-IAH GM's.

6.  Look how sGE ended up.  Players kept topping up and the game still shut down.  You can't just make players to top up and keep on playing.  Sooner or later the community will get wise from it and quit or move to a different server.  That's how most MMORPG's fail over time.

1. I don't lose 20% of my vis from the colony tax not even close. As I said you are playing the game wrong if you sell everything to NPC. Most of the stuff gets sold to other players not NPC so there is no tax on player to player trades. Sure after a BHH run I will sell 2 or 3 million worth of junk to NPC and pay 600,000 vis tax on it but that is a drop in the bucket compared to what I get from selling the vet and expert chips. Even normal BH runs yield tokens and 100 chips which can be sold to players tax free. The colony tax doesn't even matter if you play the game right.

2. Pick you poison since every game is like this now. There is no alternative if you want to play online games. As I said Capitalism. The invisible hand of the free market has chosen the model that provides the most profit.

3. This isn't the PS4 which is a mass market item. GE is a niche game made for Korean markets. We have to wait for updates. There is no other way around it.

4. Not all imperviums are created equal. You can't use those 2014 imperviums to plus up modern gear which requires high master. I agree ELN / GC is very useful. Those gears are also very which really helps the new players move up into harder content.

5. Well that just makes GEEU look bad which I said in my first post they are the crap server even if they are ahead in updates. GEEU will probably shut if they keep that up but T3 / NA will keep on chugging along. Slow and steady wins the race. You still haven't addressed the point about the new players replacing the old ones.

6. SGE closed down because they were a ghost town. People were rich but there was nothing to buy on the market. T3 on the other hand is the busiest it has ever been because the 10 vis event is keeping people raiding while injecting tonns of gear into the market. Economists would say this server has a high velocity of money. There is always items to buy and things sell quickly if they are priced right. This is not a game on the verge of shutting down like sGE was. I think GEEU may end up like sGE but not T3 / NA.
0

Offline BlackRockShooter

  • Reboldoeux Pioneer
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • BRS ブラック★ロックシューター Burakku Rokku Shūtā
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2017, 03:17:09 pm »
1.  Even those new players are doing BHH's and Normal BH's it doesn't matter if they don't have the gears to make it in this game.  You don't realize that every time you NPC field drops and roulette items to Item Dealer NPC.  You're losing 20% of your Vis and giving it to those factions who will not lower it.  You try to tell that to the players who just AFK in field maps and trying to make Vis that way.  Like I said before nobody wants to lose Vis to this insane taxation and those who support it have no respect for the community.  It's just greed and nothing more.

2.  Capitalism or not if you don't respect the community then the players won't support or play the games they make.

3.  Of course translation from Korean to English or even Japanese to English isn't easy.  I think IMC is just using Google translator just to make quick work on their part.  Also PS4 isn't for just North Americans it's also doing well in Japan and Europe.  Then again you're not a console gamer compared to me and a few others.

4.  Figures since he doesn't broad it anymore.  Also I know who knows that +9 Santo Leather Armor.  He must of had good luck on it.  However breaking armors just to +9 isn't worth it.  After all that craft materials plus upgrading + chipping and using EET's or DR 34 ET's + Socketing + Rumins.  It's not wise to do it and if it breaks you're breaking all that hard work.  Now if T3FUN does release +8 Imperviums like back in 2014.  Then maybe it would be useful but the GEEU players already said it would unbalance the PVP system.  So I would say no to +8 or higher Imperivums.  +7 to +8 armors are fine for normal PVEers.  However Greek Croma's and Elite Le Noir's are still useful.  I still use ELN's and GC's and I got a few Strat armors which I don't have the accessories for atm.

5.  They left because of T3FUN and IMC's greed.  When players leave in large groups and never come back.  That's a sign of disrespect on T3Fun's part.  They refuse to update the game and make the game balanced.  Even if you bring in new players they will also leave this game.  All it takes is one big mistake and people will leave.  GEEU players got mad when they gave away free Nena's new stance books to the sGEers and the GEEUers who were not from sGE/IAH were upset by that.  Also I heard that GEEU fired the original GM's and hired the ex-IAH GM's.

6.  Look how sGE ended up.  Players kept topping up and the game still shut down.  You can't just make players to top up and keep on playing.  Sooner or later the community will get wise from it and quit or move to a different server.  That's how most MMORPG's fail over time.

1. I don't lose 20% of my vis from the colony tax not even close. As I said you are playing the game wrong if you sell everything to NPC. Most of the stuff gets sold to other players not NPC so there is no tax on player to player trades. Sure after a BHH run I will sell 2 or 3 million worth of junk to NPC and pay 600,000 vis tax on it but that is a drop in the bucket compared to what I get from selling the vet and expert chips. Even normal BH runs yield tokens and 100 chips which can be sold to players tax free. The colony tax doesn't even matter if you play the game right.

2. Pick you poison since every game is like this now. There is no alternative if you want to play online games. As I said Capitalism. The invisible hand of the free market has chosen the model that provides the most profit.

3. This isn't the PS4 which is a mass market item. GE is a niche game made for Korean markets. We have to wait for updates. There is no other way around it.

4. Not all imperviums are created equal. You can't use those 2014 imperviums to plus up modern gear which requires high master. I agree ELN / GC is very useful. Those gears are also very which really helps the new players move up into harder content.

5. Well that just makes GEEU look bad which I said in my first post they are the crap server even if they are ahead in updates. GEEU will probably shut if they keep that up but T3 / NA will keep on chugging along. Slow and steady wins the race. You still haven't addressed the point about the new players replacing the old ones.

6. SGE closed down because they were a ghost town. People were rich but there was nothing to buy on the market. T3 on the other hand is the busiest it has ever been because the 10 vis event is keeping people raiding while injecting tonns of gear into the market. Economists would say this server has a high velocity of money. There is always items to buy and things sell quickly if they are priced right. This is not a game on the verge of shutting down like sGE was. I think GEEU may end up like sGE but not T3 / NA.

1.  I never NPC stuff because I don't give my Vis away to those factions I basically kept all my field drops and roulette items in  my other accounts.  Second it's not me who is whining about it.  It's those smaller factions who are barely surviving in this game.  Haven't you notice that during and after colony wars.  They broad to tell them to lower the tax and those factions go on deaf ears and refuse to do so.  That's a sign of disrespect.  Either way it's killing them not me.  I've been doing quite well doing Rank 5 solo missions, Rank 4 Missions, BHH's and Lyn's Daily quests.   I don't need to whine about it.  However I'm not the type of person to tax players at 20% and brag about it.

2.  If T3Fun would respect it's player base then how come those older G1 players left?  You can't just capitalize this game by making Cash Shop Event each month. Not everyone has the money to spend on this game.

3.  Koreans are smarter than us international players who play these MMORPG's.  However IMC is hurting at the moment they already sold off ToS to NEXON to gain profits after it fail so badly also Wolf Knight's MMORPG was a failure as well.

4.  There's always Strats armors with accessories that you can still be top tier in PVP/PVE.  There's Normal Imperivums, Veteran Imperivums, Expert Imperviums, and Master Imperivums that might be still left in this server.  However you don't see much players +9ing Strats armors at the moment.  Because those players are waiting for the new Strats Buff Set come out for Trigger mods.

5.  GEEU made the biggest mistake by allowing sGEers to come into that server.  That's the biggest mistake to happen in history.

6.  SGE closed down because of greed, money, and tried so hard to milk the players each month.  T3Fun is doing the same thing sad thing to say but it's the truth.  We don't even get all official events unlike GEEU and kGE for the players who don't want to top up.  Also the Playtime Events are quite good here but too much of the same event does make it boring.  Why just AFK for PTE points knowing how there's other event ideas.
0
★BRS ブラック★ロックシューター (Burakku Rokku Shūtā) ★Family ★ Level★ ★76+3★ ★Anime ★ Manga ★ Music ★ Gaming ★ Vocaloid★

★BRS Project Mugen★

Offline BakedPatato®

  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • I am a baked potato
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2017, 10:23:18 pm »
Just to chime in...

1. My biggest issue with the colony tax is basically buying necessary potions and orbs required for raids. Thankfully I get a decent supply of ASO from CTB raids but all the other pots, you gotta buy from NPC and pay those taxes. I usually stock up all my pots when tax is 0% and try to last it out but it has been a while since TH & EP won any colonies. And, of course, it affects starter players. I got a couple of sGE migrants in my clan who don't paytard, and they are having a hard time. There is no reason to support this 20% tax; we all know the large clans do it to hoard vis and then sell them off.  ::)

2. Cash players are needed to keep the server alive but I do agree that the way things have been, it is pay to win. I have been here for some years, and do daily Bibles and craft Armonia weapons. But I get out-DPS by a newcomer who spammed LS to get the latest Abyss weapons and the broken premium chars. Sadly, this game has come to a point where you are forced to use a char or get left out of raids (this is no fault of T3's of course, but we are so behind in updates that the patches which boosts other chars isn't here and old chars are trash atm). Additionally, everyone needs to invest in one of those LS weapons or they will be left behind in terms of DPS. So even if you don't paytard, you are still somewhat forced to support this.

3. We are far too behind in updates. It's getting boring. The friends who I started playing with years ago have left the game because there is nothing to do. They said they'll come back when Orden patch comes but who knows.

The problems stated in (2) is exacerbated by (3). A lot of the old chars, particularly magic ones, are getting boosts in patches. Just to throw in an example, the Occult Magic stance will be boosted and 2 of its skills modified to channeling ones. In other servers, you can still use stock ele/Helena if you do not own Joshua or Aclla, or simply do not like to use them. But in this server?  ::)

Offline Ewelli

  • Administrator
  • Arrived in Startonia
  • *****
  • Posts: 20
  • Pink Frosting
Re: What are GE EU players bragging about?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 02:26:11 am »
Cleaned this thread. Please stick to discussing the main topic only. Thank you.

Making my way downtown