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Offline MeowMeow

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Multi Client Issue
« on: September 27, 2017, 01:52:06 am »
I saw some players yesterday complaining about Multi Client. Someone said it destroys the game.
Note: This is for everyone, not for a specific clan/faction.

I totally agree with that. How does multi client (playing multiple GE clients at the same time) destroys the game?

1. Farming. I know someone (I don't wanna name drop here) who use 3+ alts in Blood Fog/Crow/Red Sunset. Then they baron someone who steal the spot of one of their alts.
2. Bible/Montoro/Weekly raids. I know someone who use 5+ alts in bible mission. Greater chance to get armonia access.
3. CTB. I know someone who bring 3+ alts in CTB for tons of expert chips.
3. Field raids. Camp many boss at the same time while playing with your main account. Bring buffers to raid, easy kill.
4. Colony War. People bring alts Rio+Rosa+Vero and Bryan+Leonele+Mia (or whatever buffer they want) making them tough in PVP battle. Other players abuse multi client opening 3+ cannoners to destroy colonies quickly.

Is this fair gaming? No. What will gonna happen to us who wanna play fairly.

Someone told me, we don't CS (use cash shop/spam lucky shop) because we raid/farm using Multi Client. T3 should know that this Multi Cient won't help their business at all.

How to stop Multi Client?
It is easy, update Xtrap. Don't allow Multi Client on Windows 7 which I heard the OS that allows Multi Client.




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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 02:56:32 am »
Forget about X-Trap. It doesn't work. The easiest way to stop multi client is just to have a GM go around and ban them. We all know who these people are and I am sure the GMs do too. They could all be banned in 15 minutes if T3 really wanted to crack down.
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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 06:25:26 am »
They updated Xtrap today. I hope that resolved the issue.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 01:07:06 pm »
They updated Xtrap today. I hope that resolved the issue.

I doubt it after whoever designed the software to bypass X-Trap is already making a new patch to bypass X-Trap.  It won't take long till botters and multi-client users to abuse this game again.
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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 06:05:43 pm »
They updated Xtrap today. I hope that resolved the issue.

 ;D ;D ;D NOPE  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 07:26:14 am »
They updated Xtrap today. I hope that resolved the issue.

 ;D ;D ;D NOPE  ;D ;D ;D

Uh, you're right, they still abuse Multi Client and they are not scared about it.
5+ accounts open at the same time and they are not scared at all!

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 09:27:40 am »
They updated Xtrap today. I hope that resolved the issue.

 ;D ;D ;D NOPE  ;D ;D ;D

Uh, you're right, they still abuse Multi Client and they are not scared about it.
5+ accounts open at the same time and they are not scared at all!

Keep crying.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 10:12:45 am »
http://ge.t3fun.com/Support/Policy.aspx

.3.4 Using 3rd Party Applications
This section details our policies regarding the use of applications not authorized by the game or its publisher. Applications such as Bot tools, speed hacks and the like are strictly prohibited. Players found to use such software shall receive heavy sanction immediately with or without prior notice.
 
            Multi Client like GemC (used by those players I know) is an application that is not authorized by the game.

8.4 Ensure a Safe and Enjoyable Game Environment

GMs shall monitor the game world to ensure that all aspects of the game are fair for all.
The GMs shall patrol the game world in order to remove abusive players who use illegal or unauthorized means to gain an unfair advantage in the game. These include bot users, speed hack users, and other such persons. GMs shall also place sanctions on abusive players that cause harm to others in the game.

        All aspects of the game ate fair to all. Using Multi Client is totally not fair to everyone who never use it.

2. Violations and Sanctions
Using 3rd Party Applications:  Permanent Ban


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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 01:30:59 pm »
http://ge.t3fun.com/Support/Policy.aspx

.3.4 Using 3rd Party Applications
This section details our policies regarding the use of applications not authorized by the game or its publisher. Applications such as Bot tools, speed hacks and the like are strictly prohibited. Players found to use such software shall receive heavy sanction immediately with or without prior notice.
 
            Multi Client like GemC (used by those players I know) is an application that is not authorized by the game.

8.4 Ensure a Safe and Enjoyable Game Environment

GMs shall monitor the game world to ensure that all aspects of the game are fair for all.
The GMs shall patrol the game world in order to remove abusive players who use illegal or unauthorized means to gain an unfair advantage in the game. These include bot users, speed hack users, and other such persons. GMs shall also place sanctions on abusive players that cause harm to others in the game.

        All aspects of the game ate fair to all. Using Multi Client is totally not fair to everyone who never use it.

2. Violations and Sanctions
Using 3rd Party Applications:  Permanent Ban

Or do what GEEU does only allow 3 accounts per IP address.  *Like that will ever happen* Plus people would get a VPN and abuse it.  But of course people will abuse the management policy and terms of services anyway. What's the whole point of having GM's if they refuse to monitor the game 24/7.  Do we even have GM's on the weekends?  Nope not at all.
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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 02:41:09 pm »
Its funny how all the ppl who complain about multi or tools or whatever is called looks like they know too much about that like gemC and only work in win7
 ... i think its maybe idk...because you used to do the same but no able anymore because now you hav win10 system? idk just im thinking how funny its.

Just ask for GM to be more actives then they can see those ppl doing that, send tickets and stop being hypocrite.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 12:48:55 pm »
I saw some players yesterday complaining about Multi Client. Someone said it destroys the game.
Note: This is for everyone, not for a specific clan/faction.

I totally agree with that. How does multi client (playing multiple GE clients at the same time) destroys the game?

1. Farming. I know someone (I don't wanna name drop here) who use 3+ alts in Blood Fog/Crow/Red Sunset. Then they baron someone who steal the spot of one of their alts.
2. Bible/Montoro/Weekly raids. I know someone who use 5+ alts in bible mission. Greater chance to get armonia access.
3. CTB. I know someone who bring 3+ alts in CTB for tons of expert chips.
3. Field raids. Camp many boss at the same time while playing with your main account. Bring buffers to raid, easy kill.
4. Colony War. People bring alts Rio+Rosa+Vero and Bryan+Leonele+Mia (or whatever buffer they want) making them tough in PVP battle. Other players abuse multi client opening 3+ cannoners to destroy colonies quickly.

Is this fair gaming? No. What will gonna happen to us who wanna play fairly.

Someone told me, we don't CS (use cash shop/spam lucky shop) because we raid/farm using Multi Client. T3 should know that this Multi Cient won't help their business at all.

How to stop Multi Client?
It is easy, update Xtrap. Don't allow Multi Client on Windows 7 which I heard the OS that allows Multi Client.

Yes multi client ruins the game experience but it only really affects the serious cases where people bring many alts. GM's have said that there is nothing wrong with playing alts on more than one PC and thus it will do nothing for your alt buffer issues. I honestly hate alt buffing and I am a culprit of that myself. Buffs need to be family only so it's impossible to alt buff otherwise nothing will change. Sorry that would make some raids more difficult but every raid is within grasp even without alt buffs my dudes. I have more than 2 PC's but generally only use my laptop and 1 desktop so alt buffing isn't an issue and according to GM is perfectly legit. So as long as my enemies alt buff I'll take that route too but its sad that to get a decent experience fighting them that's what you do. This game is crazy unbalanced to the point I think IMC expects you to buff with an alt. The people using 8+ alts to make money is a big deal though and this is in fact to multi client (vmware also outlawed by GM already). There's no enforcing it with these GM's tho it's been posted between Evo and Candy all over the forums tons of screens showing 8+ alts laying dead in En Celar red because they are in squad with said person who is the only person on map at war. What more proof is there? If squading with 8 people dead in a pile isn't warrant for enforcement I don't know what is. Other games ban with a lot less evidence. 100% I'm sure these people eventually trade back to their mains because they are too lazy to exchange via marketplace their funds. GM's most likely don't enforce it because they don't want the game to be completely dead. Updating xtrap wont do anything for multi clients and especially vmware. Multi's get updated and Vmware can be set up so the system doesn't know its a VM.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 09:49:51 pm »
Just sharing. There will be a restriction on buffs in Symphonia 3 & 4 patch, so that should put alt buffer issue under control. Better for PVP I think.

Quote
Added Squad Buff system
  • Similarly to how it works with foods, one character can have up to 100 [Squad Buff Points]
  • Each squad buff now adds a certain amount of [Squad Buff Points]
Quote
[ Squad buff point ]     
[ Target Stance ] and [ Buff ] Changes
[ Domination Fire ]: < Lava Plasma > [1]
[ Domination ice ]: < Cold plasma > [1]
[ Domination Lightning ]: < Electric Plasma > [1]
[ Incantation ]: < Magic Barrier > [30]
[ Inkaen presentation ] < Do Executive NOR > [1]
[ESP]: < Spiritual Shield > [1]
[ESP]: < Anti-Magic Shell > [1]
[ Possession Fire ]: < Burning Hands > [1]
[ Possession Ice ]: < Chilling Touch > [1]
[ Possession Lightning ]: < Electric Charger > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < intensify > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Fortify > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Acceleration > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Meditation > [1]
[ Serenade ]: < Shining Ballad > [4] (Fix)
[ Serenade ]: < Intuition Melody > [35]
[ Serenade ]: < Rhythm of Spell Break > [35]
[ Superior Blaster ]: < Hound > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Confucius > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Virtuoso > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Cone Impetto > [35]
[ Prelude ] < furnace to avoid > [35]
[ Drawing ]: < success ? Great success !> [4]
[ Bernelli Job Skill ]: < Marks Mann > [4]
[ KES Occupation Skill ]: < Gun Master > [4]
[ Leona Job Skill ]: < Indica Zion > [4]
[ Joshua Job Skill ]: < Bell Math > [4]
[ Lionel Job Skill ]: < Leadership > [4]
[ Lork Skill ]: < Infertration > [4]
[ Combat Chef Pan Pilo Job Skills ]: < Grille > [4]
[ Hermes ]: < Chemical Protection > [50]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Bolero > [10]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Rancha > [15]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Kancion > [1]
[ Plassee ]: < Komunion > [20]
[ Kazari skill ]: < magic amplification > [4]
[ Adriana Occupation Skills ]: < tactics > [20]

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2017, 09:17:41 am »

Yes multi client ruins the game experience but it only really affects the serious cases where people bring many alts. GM's have said that there is nothing wrong with playing alts on more than one PC and thus it will do nothing for your alt buffer issues. I honestly hate alt buffing and I am a culprit of that myself. Buffs need to be family only so it's impossible to alt buff otherwise nothing will change. Sorry that would make some raids more difficult but every raid is within grasp even without alt buffs my dudes. I have more than 2 PC's but generally only use my laptop and 1 desktop so alt buffing isn't an issue and according to GM is perfectly legit. So as long as my enemies alt buff I'll take that route too but its sad that to get a decent experience fighting them that's what you do. This game is crazy unbalanced to the point I think IMC expects you to buff with an alt. The people using 8+ alts to make money is a big deal though and this is in fact to multi client (vmware also outlawed by GM already). There's no enforcing it with these GM's tho it's been posted between Evo and Candy all over the forums tons of screens showing 8+ alts laying dead in En Celar red because they are in squad with said person who is the only person on map at war. What more proof is there? If squading with 8 people dead in a pile isn't warrant for enforcement I don't know what is. Other games ban with a lot less evidence. 100% I'm sure these people eventually trade back to their mains because they are too lazy to exchange via marketplace their funds. GM's most likely don't enforce it because they don't want the game to be completely dead. Updating xtrap wont do anything for multi clients and especially vmware. Multi's get updated and Vmware can be set up so the system doesn't know its a VM.

What incredible nonsense in the sentence thats marked red. Did you ever THINK of doing CTB without Rio, Rosa, Grace/Leona or Karja (which are commonly played by lesser geared people that dont have strong enough gears to play other chars there, not necessarily just alts)? Next, you allow buffing ET buffs to family only since they also make people stronger? If this would become reality, CTB runs would be non-existant except for those that have spent tons of money to overgear themselves. And it would cut a main supply of red chips, which would make the whole crap even more difficult in the end.
Think before you post, please.
Just because you're pissed about people abusing the system in pvp, this doesnt mean you should just generalize all this stuff. Especially the MCC1 raids need buffers, and if they are family only, its getting much more tough to near impossible for the average/good equipped people. Only the very good equipped or overgeared people would be able to complete the raids then. This also goes for the higher difficulty missions, such as the Bible raids or, in parts, Talos and what else is about to come.

I agree that alt buffs in pvp are annoying and they should be dealt with, but rushing things or panicking never helped. If more GMs would monitor whats going on, it would lead to a more fair GE environment. Without that, it will be difficult to change anything, I might fear.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2017, 05:00:26 pm »
Just sharing. There will be a restriction on buffs in Symphonia 3 & 4 patch, so that should put alt buffer issue under control. Better for PVP I think.

Quote
Added Squad Buff system
  • Similarly to how it works with foods, one character can have up to 100 [Squad Buff Points]
  • Each squad buff now adds a certain amount of [Squad Buff Points]
Quote
[ Squad buff point ]     
[ Target Stance ] and [ Buff ] Changes
[ Domination Fire ]: < Lava Plasma > [1]
[ Domination ice ]: < Cold plasma > [1]
[ Domination Lightning ]: < Electric Plasma > [1]
[ Incantation ]: < Magic Barrier > [30]
[ Inkaen presentation ] < Do Executive NOR > [1]
[ESP]: < Spiritual Shield > [1]
[ESP]: < Anti-Magic Shell > [1]
[ Possession Fire ]: < Burning Hands > [1]
[ Possession Ice ]: < Chilling Touch > [1]
[ Possession Lightning ]: < Electric Charger > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < intensify > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Fortify > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Acceleration > [1]
[ Fortitude ]: < Meditation > [1]
[ Serenade ]: < Shining Ballad > [4] (Fix)
[ Serenade ]: < Intuition Melody > [35]
[ Serenade ]: < Rhythm of Spell Break > [35]
[ Superior Blaster ]: < Hound > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Confucius > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Virtuoso > [4]
[ Prelude ]: < Cone Impetto > [35]
[ Prelude ] < furnace to avoid > [35]
[ Drawing ]: < success ? Great success !> [4]
[ Bernelli Job Skill ]: < Marks Mann > [4]
[ KES Occupation Skill ]: < Gun Master > [4]
[ Leona Job Skill ]: < Indica Zion > [4]
[ Joshua Job Skill ]: < Bell Math > [4]
[ Lionel Job Skill ]: < Leadership > [4]
[ Lork Skill ]: < Infertration > [4]
[ Combat Chef Pan Pilo Job Skills ]: < Grille > [4]
[ Hermes ]: < Chemical Protection > [50]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Bolero > [10]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Rancha > [15]
[ Paul Claire ]: < Kancion > [1]
[ Plassee ]: < Komunion > [20]
[ Kazari skill ]: < magic amplification > [4]
[ Adriana Occupation Skills ]: < tactics > [20]

Madness, sometime i start to question why they release a good feature if they cant keep it under control. side not i didnt realize t3 reset the forum but seriously increase the captcha quality.

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Re: Multi Client Issue
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 07:43:58 pm »
IMC doesn't care nor does T3Fun.  If they would stop it.  They would of fix this problems since the game's debut.  But that's never going to change the fact that people will abuse this game by using VPNs, VM's, Multi-Clients, Multi-PCs, and software to bypass X-Trap.  It's never going to be addressed or fixed anytime soon.  Even more GM"s can't monitor the game 24/7 365 days a year.  Heck we don't even get our tickets responded till Monday's or even on Tuesday.   Of course we all know that the GM's don't work from Friday's through Monday's so yeah if they can't monitor Colony Wars, Fields, Clique War, and normal PVP/PVE areas.  Then it's pointless to even care anymore.  There's too many alts, bots, and now Vis seller bots in Reb Ch1, Ch2, and Ch3 but the GM's don't ban them which is why T3Fun does not care.  It's also been proven that they can't even ban those Vis selling broaders as well.
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